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Computer and Email Woes (or Whoas)

Our computers are somewhat old. We got them in 2004, and their processors are almost glacial compared to what exists today, and for some reason when we upgraded our router it became harder for the machines to get onto the Internet. We're probably going to need to upgrade at some point soon, although given that what we need are Macintosh computers I'm not sure how we'll afford it.

For the past nine years or so, I've been using Eudora for my mail, and I finally decided to switch to another program. Eudora has a lot of the functionality I need and am used to, but I found that Apple's own Mail program will give me an interface I need. This morning, I began the process to set up Mail on my machine.

Everything was going fine, and then it asked me if I wanted to import all my Eudora mailboxes. I hadn't realized that was going to be an option, but of course it makes sense to be able to access as much of my old email from my new program. So I said yes.

That was at around 10:30 this morning. It's now after 7 pm, and Mail is nowhere near done, only up to my email from the year 2004.

I forgot how much email I had accumulated over the years.

Anyway, I'm going to leave the computer churning away overnight, and if necessary, well into tomorrow. It's worth it to me to have everything transfered over, and I do have an online email account where I've copied all my email since mid-2007 or so. I'll be able to access my email while my computer is churning away, but it is a pain.

Which is, I'm sure, more than any of you needed or wanted to know. :-)


I'm using my wife's old laptop, which is from 2004, and it shows. Not only is it a tad slow to boot up, but you'd break your foot if the machine fell on it. Eventually, when our financial situation improves, I'll probably get myself a more modern one. I'd switch from Windows to the Mac, except that my wife then couldn't use my machine as a backup when hers is at the shop. That's a valid concern, what with her being a writer.


With the exception that more viruses and malware are written for pc's & the added learning curve I'd suggest switching to a pc if cost/performance is an issue. I just got a 6 core 2.6 GHz pc w/ 8Gb of Ram & 1.5 Tb HD for approx $850. (I added a 256gb SSD HD for even more performance) And that was without hunting down the best deals because my home pc died. That better than you'd get with a Mac at half the cost.

Re: Switching

Unfortunately, switching to a PC isn't an option. We may look at refurbished Macs, though; we did that years ago and saved money.

Re: Switching

I'm curious: what is it about the Mac that precludes all other options? Some particular bit of software that isn't available on any other platform?

Re: Switching

When it comes to the publishing world, Macintosh tends to be better for the software one uses. And there are in fact some programs that have been written only for the Mac, and not for PCs. (And if I needed to run a program that was PC only, Macs now have PC emulators, and have for a while.)

Re: Switching

So then it isn't a particular piece of software that you're using now, but rather a worry that at some point in the future some publisher is going to require you to use a Mac-only program?

Re: Switching

Also, there is a piece of software that I want to use that is Mac only.
Didn't you run into a similar problem with your old Palm's calendar when it got overloaded?
I feel your pain; I just had the hard drive on my Mac die in unrecoverable fashion on Monday. I'd bought it about 3 years ago used on eBay, but this time I splurged on a new MacBook, not the Pro model. I can't really afford it, either, but I would have paid probably one-third to one-half the price of the new one to get another used one, which would be outdated in another two years. FWIW, it's 2.4GHz with 2GB RAM, 250GB hard drive, for $1,000. I figure you're like me and that's plenty for your needs. I didn't pay any attention to what the desktops are going for, it that's what you're looking for.

Also, Computer Loft is still in business at 6 Fordham Road in Allston; they used to be in the same office building when Nomi was with The Company. They have used Macs, and apparently offer a 6-month warranty if you go that route. They are still good people, as near as I can tell; they are not charging me for the unsuccessful attempt to get data off my hard drive, even though they presumably spent more than 10 minutes on it. They are also open till 8 p.m.

Anyway, good luck with the mail transfer; I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Actually, we go to Computer Loft all the time. :-) I do appreciate hearing your story and recommendation, however. I'd like us to get MacBook Pros, but we'll probably end up with just MacBook. Unless we can figure something out...
The Eudora gang just released a version of Eudora written on top of Mozilla's Thunderbird. I haven't tried it, but it's free and open source (to the best of my knowledge) and it probably has a look and feel of the old Eudora.
Did they just release it? I went looking for it a few months ago and couldn't find it.

This looks like it:

And it looks like it might have been what I wanted, if I hadn't already started the Mail process, which is ongoing as of this morning.

Maybe I'll try downloading the new Eudora after all.
Yeah, "just released" as in the past couple of weeks.

One trick you can use is to set up your inbox to get messages but not delete them from the server. That way you can test drive both applications and decide which one is better.
Aha! I was planning to use that trick when I started downloading using Apple Mail; I think I'll take you up on it.

Many thanks for pointing me in this direction.
I try to use IMAP for my mail service whenever possible. It's a mail server protocol in which mail is *always* stored on the server. That way you can switch mail clients at will (which I do fairly regularly). All the major mail clients support it, and have an option which also downloads the messages so they can be read offline.
FYI, I went through the process of transferring all my email and filters, etc. to the new Eudora OSE, and when it was done, none of them were there. Not sure what's going on, so I'm still using the old Eudora for the moment.

What I really want is a program that has an interface like Gmail but that will let me download my mail rather than leave it on a server.
::::nods:::: My sympathies on the importation process.


I'm currently doing the same thing, from Eudora to Mail, and I've got mail back to the 90s. It's been taking me the better part of a week.

A few tips for you:

http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Eudora_Mailbox_Cleaner.html will do wonders, and also keep attachments with the right files, which Mail's standard import doesn't do.

And after you're done, look into programs like MailSteward to get the bulk of it out of your day to day mail, yet still accessible. I'll have a fuller list for you if you still need it.

Re: Piker.

Wow! This is very helpful information. Thanks!

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