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[Major spoilers for last night's episode, "Two for the Road"]

Well, according to The Ausiello Report on the TV Guide webpage, the producers had always planned to kill Ana Lucia and Libby:

Carlton: Then she got this DUI and Damon and I looked at each other and we were like, "Oh, great. Everybody is going to think we're killing her off because she got a DUI." But there really wasn't anything we could do about that. I mean, the story was set. We had made plans. With Lost, we think it out well ahead of when we actually shoot it. We thought about altering our plan, but [this] was in fact what was best for the show. The fact that she got a DUI would come and go and what would live on would be the show, and our plan was still the best plan for the character. Ironically, we actually thought about changing it the other way around once [the DUI] happened, but it really was the best story. We wanted to tell the best story.

Damon: And obviously that decision was further mitigated by the fact that Libby is shot at the same time as Ana Lucia. Basically then we said, "Oh, s--t. Both Michelle and Cynthia were busted the same night for DUI and we've got this story point coming up where they essentially both get shot at the same time, so it's going to look like this is the Lost producers attempt to say, 'Don't drive drunk!'" But as Carlton says, all it created in us was [the thought that], "Maybe we shouldn't do the plan now, 'cause people are going to think this is a reaction to [the DUIs], as opposed to this [plan] existing prior to that event."

But, you know, I don't buy it.


I can kinda see getting rid of Ana Lucia. I disliked the character from the start, and while it was interesting that she was hanging out with Jack's dad in Australia, I didn't think her character had anywhere to go after she showed a little remorse for what she had done. That's when she was completed. So killing her is no skin off my back.

But killing Libby off is a little off to me. Hurley hadn't realized where he had seen her before, and her whole deception hadn't been uncovered. That seemed like her character had more time to it. It's great for the shock value that she's killed, but I have to wonder if that was related to the DUI charge. Heh.
Is it a done deal that Libby is dead? I read that her fate was "undetermined" at this time.
She looked pretty dead to me...and the actress has already been cast in a new sitcom.
I think it's plausible, but no matter what the truth is, people will always say they killed her off because of that.

It sure was a kick-ass way to end an episode!


Michelle Rodriguez was just on TRL and said that her death was "written in the contract at the beginning" because she didn't want to be doing one thing for too long. That she's too much of a gypsy.
Maybe it's time to ask Javi! (http://chaodai.livejournal.com/)

Javier Grillo-Marxuach was a producer and writer on the show that recently left, I believe. He might be able to answer if that was a pre-ordained storyline.

It's like how they were "always going to kill Doyle" on Angel. Uh huh. Riiiiight.

Sexist Writing.

What this episode did for me, unfortunately, was throw the very sexist writing on Lost into full focus... MORE major spoilers for those who... are reading Michael's spoiler chocked post? Anyway.

Let's keep in mind that Anna Lucia was a police officer, who was presumably trained in self defense. In this episode, she was attacked by the other who has been shot with an arrow, beaten to a pulp and left tied up in a cell for over a week. I find it believable that he was able to suprise her, and gain the upper hand for a moment, but upon her strangulation, all this ex-officer of the law could do was paw at his steely grip around her throat? Not for a moment did she attack his groin or face, and he was strangling her long enough to begin a monolouge... Luckily a man, Locke, saved her. A disabled man. In his fifties. With his crutch.

Later in the episode, Anna Lucia needs something from Sawyer... this is a character who was hired earlier in the episode to be a BODYGAURD. She makes a laughable punch at him, and is quickly overtaken by Sawyer, and instead of struggling until he was off her as in a real fight, resorted to the only tool women apparently have to get what they want in the reality of this show - she slept with him.

This sort of caused me to look back at the principle female characters and their roles on the show -

Kate - Kate is used most often as a prize to be won by Sawyer or Jack, and occasionally to be rescued... She usually in need of rescuing because she dissobeys Jack, and is too headstrong for a woman on this show.

Shannon - Shannon wasn't much more than a foil for Boone. And while Boone stretched out and found his own way on the island, Shannon simply went to another man, Sayid, and was then killed off to further his character.

Claire - Before she gave birth to Aaron, Claire's main defining trait was that she was pregnant. She was given "depth" when she was victimized by Ethan and then struck with amnesia. She is now rarely given screen time if it's not related to Charlie or Aaron in some major way.

Russo & Libby - Both of these characters are LITTERALLY insane. Russo is driven insane partially when her SON is taken from her. Libby's insanity has little to do with her gender, but is important to note that while she isn't defined by another male character, lacks any favorable defining charactaristics.

Sun - When Sun first appeared, she like Kate was there for two men, Michael and Jin to fight over. They've since branched out from that, but often during the first season if the show was about Sun, it was REALLY about how Sun was going to leave Jin. Now Sun has become pregnant, we'll see if we get to learn anything more about her outside of her pregnancy.

Rose - Rose is the one character I can sort of forgive. It's easy to point to her because she's had little to do but pine for her husband's return... but really, Bernard doesn't have much going for him outside of being Rose's husband, so I'm fine with it.

On top of all this, let's look at the death count for Hero Islanders. For this to count, characters cannot be villians (so Ethan does not count), must be a castaway (Jack's dad doesn't count), and must have appeared in at least three episodes (Earnst does not count, nor do the people in the tail section that didn't make it to the beach).

Also, if your name is Scott or Steve, you do not count, and should be wearing a Red Shirt anyway. (See, I can be lighthearted.)

I think that's a fair assessment of what constitutes a dead main characters?

After this episode we have 3 female deaths and 1 male death. More bothering if put into context -

Boone was killed while adventuring - taken further, he was killed trying to SAVE everyone! The plane fell, killing Boone, when he tried to reach the radio within to call for help. This is a hero's death.

All three women, not one or two, ALL three women were victims, shot and killed.

This is not a revelation that makes me happy, as I really, really, REALLY, liked this show. I've seen the first season three times and have mapped out where the island MIGHT BE in google earth with my friends. So I'm completely let down by all of these revelations...


Re: Sexist Writing.

Also, I think I meant to post this comment on your other post!

Would you prefer it there, because I can C'n'P it...

Re: Sexist Writing.

It's fine here. An interesting analysis, although I wonder if the writers even realize what they're doing...

Re: Sexist Writing.

In a show with THIS MUCH going on, I'm sure it's unintentional... that doesn't make it better though.

December 2016

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